"Green Light" riff

noisereductions · 06.12.2009, 10:06 AM

okay, I've heard "Green Light" probably a thousand times. But I never really picked up on this. Y'know when the shit gets crazy and there's the intense guitar buildup? Well my wife was like "Hey! That sounds like the guitar from 'Death Valley 69' slowed down!" And I was like "O. M. G." It does, huh? Did everyone else notice this??

greedrex · 06.12.2009, 10:42 AM

o shit. We were all ripped off from the start. I'm selling all my SY related shit. Bastards.

noisereductions · 06.12.2009, 10:49 AM

summer · 06.12.2009, 10:54 AM

Whether this is true or not, I think bands should do that more often. There's a difference between ripping yourself off and self-reference. I'm not exactly sure where one begins and the other ends.. the line seems very blurry. However, if pulled off right it seems like a good idea.

noisereductions · 06.12.2009, 11:07 AM

I dnt think you can "rip yrself off" ... I think it is indeed self-reference. I mean DV69 had been their first big hit, and they felt the riff was actually uncharacteristic of the band. So to slow it down and "remix" it into something else, something more characteristic is sort of a cool wink-wink to the fanbase.

ZEROpumpkins · 06.12.2009, 10:12 PM

I know Aphex Twin has sampled himself a few times, it's pretty interesting to be sitting there listening to a track and being like "hang on a minute..."

noisereductions · 06.13.2009, 08:13 AM

well waht about Kim's "Come on down to the river" thing in "Calming The Snake"???

automatic bzooty · 06.13.2009, 09:24 AM

i hope they sue themselves for a multimillion dollar.

Shifty Prophet · 06.13.2009, 09:31 AM

wow, does it really matter? its a song. its a great song, people should stop dissecting things so much and just listen and listen, learn to appreciate, love it.

chrome noise tape · 06.13.2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by automatic bzooty

i hope they sue themselves for a multimillion dollar.

a multitrillion dollar...

SYRFox · 06.13.2009, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Shifty Prophet

wow, does it really matter? its a song. its a great song, people should stop dissecting things so much and just listen and listen, learn to appreciate, love it.

end of message board

greedrex · 06.13.2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chrome noise tape

a multitrillion dollar...

gazillion?

Shifty Prophet · 06.13.2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SYRFox

end of message board

if by that you mean the end of discussing things, then i hardly think thats true. there are plenty of interesting points that have been highlighted on this forum (i may have just joined, but i lurked for a while) that don't concern dissecting every little nuance within every song. nothing against the dude that posted that, i don't know him and he's probably a cool guy, it just seemed a little to obsessive for my taste, thats all.

SYRFox · 06.13.2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Shifty Prophet

if by that you mean the end of discussing things, then i hardly think thats true. there are plenty of interesting points that have been highlighted on this forum (i may have just joined, but i lurked for a while) that don't concern dissecting every little nuance within every song. nothing against the dud that posted that, i don't know him and he's probably a cool guy, it just seemed a little to obsessive for my taste, thats all.

ahah, don't worry man, i wasn't too serious - i never am, actually. though i don't really see the problem with that thread.
(edit: and noisereductions is indeed one damn good fellah)

dasx · 06.13.2009, 01:00 PM

It's a common thing that artist repeats itself. It's also true that same things in different context can sound really different...

And I mean that artists do that kind of things unconsciously.

noisereductions · 06.13.2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shifty Prophet

if by that you mean the end of discussing things, then i hardly think thats true. there are plenty of interesting points that have been highlighted on this forum (i may have just joined, but i lurked for a while) that don't concern dissecting every little nuance within every song. nothing against the dud that posted that, i don't know him and he's probably a cool guy, it just seemed a little to obsessive for my taste, thats all.

if yr gonna start posting by calling regulars "duds" then I would suggest that you fuck off.

joe11121 · 06.13.2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Shifty Prophet

if by that you mean the end of discussing things, then i hardly think thats true. there are plenty of interesting points that have been highlighted on this forum (i may have just joined, but i lurked for a while) that don't concern dissecting every little nuance within every song. nothing against the dud that posted that, i don't know him and he's probably a cool guy, it just seemed a little to obsessive for my taste, thats all.

I disagree, I like threads where we analyze specific songs.

Derek · 06.13.2009, 01:21 PM

Threads like these are interesting, would you rather have fucking dull threads Mr. Shift Prophet?

noisereductions · 06.13.2009, 01:57 PM

No kidding. If this douche knows a better place to discuss a Sonic Youth song than a Sonic Youth forum...

demonrail666 · 06.13.2009, 02:09 PM

I quite like the idea of bands having sort of 'stock' riffs that crop up from time to time in different songs. Not necessarily in a Status Quo kind of a way but more in a sort of working-through-an-idea kind of one. I've noticed a few of these in SY, although I have to say I'd noticed the Green Light-DV 69 continuum.

06.12.2009, 10:06 AM	#1
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	okay, I've heard "Green Light" probably a thousand times. But I never really picked up on this. Y'know when the shit gets crazy and there's the intense guitar buildup? Well my wife was like "Hey! That sounds like the guitar from 'Death Valley 69' slowed down!" And I was like "O. M. G." It does, huh? Did everyone else notice this?? __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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06.12.2009, 10:42 AM	#2
greedrex invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in yr fotobukit Posts: 6,588	o shit. We were all ripped off from the start. I'm selling all my SY related shit. Bastards. __________________ Greed Recordings bandcamp ~The Rex~, stalkin' yr shit since 2008.
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06.12.2009, 10:49 AM	#3
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	haha __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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06.12.2009, 10:54 AM	#4
summer stalker Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 540	Whether this is true or not, I think bands should do that more often. There's a difference between ripping yourself off and self-reference. I'm not exactly sure where one begins and the other ends.. the line seems very blurry. However, if pulled off right it seems like a good idea. __________________
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06.12.2009, 11:07 AM	#5
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	I dnt think you can "rip yrself off" ... I think it is indeed self-reference. I mean DV69 had been their first big hit, and they felt the riff was actually uncharacteristic of the band. So to slow it down and "remix" it into something else, something more characteristic is sort of a cool wink-wink to the fanbase. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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06.12.2009, 10:12 PM	#6
ZEROpumpkins invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 6,157	I know Aphex Twin has sampled himself a few times, it's pretty interesting to be sitting there listening to a track and being like "hang on a minute..." __________________
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06.13.2009, 08:13 AM	#7
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	well waht about Kim's "Come on down to the river" thing in "Calming The Snake"??? __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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automatic bzooty invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,859	i hope they sue themselves for a multimillion dollar.
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Shifty Prophet 100% Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Posts: 725	wow, does it really matter? its a song. its a great song, people should stop dissecting things so much and just listen and listen, learn to appreciate, love it.
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dasx children of satan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 307	It's a common thing that artist repeats itself. It's also true that same things in different context can sound really different... And I mean that artists do that kind of things unconsciously. __________________ www.soundcloud.com/black-spy www.soundcloud.com/haikala
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Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	Threads like these are interesting, would you rather have fucking dull threads Mr. Shift Prophet?
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06.13.2009, 01:57 PM	#19
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	No kidding. If this douche knows a better place to discuss a Sonic Youth song than a Sonic Youth forum... __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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06.13.2009, 02:09 PM	#20
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	I quite like the idea of bands having sort of 'stock' riffs that crop up from time to time in different songs. Not necessarily in a Status Quo kind of a way but more in a sort of working-through-an-idea kind of one. I've noticed a few of these in SY, although I have to say I'd noticed the Green Light-DV 69 continuum.
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