[greenlight]

Originally Posted by whorefrost

You can pre-order it, certainly

yeah, just pre-ordered it.

[whorefrost]

OK, cool

[evollove]

I'm sort of bugged by the fact that this will sell relatively well, but the vast majority of copies will be bought by people who don't even care that much about the music. (I know I'm making this up, but I'm probably right.)

[whorefrost]

Originally Posted by evollove

I'm sort of bugged by the fact that this will sell relatively well, but the vast majority of copies will be bought by people who don't even care that much about the music. (I know I'm making this up, but I'm probably right.)

Hmmm.. I think that's cool. It's a memoir of Kim Gordon, not a Sonic Youth biography or anything like that. (although obviously details of her role in Sonic Youth will be in there that will appeal to us folks) But yeah, she's already said something to the effect of she didn't want to write some sort of definitive Sonic Youth book.

[evollove]

Fair enough. But judging by that awful pitchfork link, a lot of people will be looking for cheap gossip, which I'm sure wasn't her intent either.

[diskaholic-anonymous]

it's not only a memoir...i think it's her way to close the sonic youth connection. and move on in peace. kim is free.

[Bal]

Kim is badmouthing Thurston every way she can, and telling everyone sonic youth is over. i can understand her feelings were hurt, but its been many years now. why can't she move on with dignity?
and why is she so hostile when anyone asks her about sonic youth? its her past.
i really like Kim, but thats how it comes across with all those interviews, and book reviews..

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by Bal

Kim is badmouthing Thurston every way she can, and telling everyone sonic youth is over. i can understand her feelings were hurt, but its been many years now. why can't she move on with dignity?
and why is she so hostile when anyone asks her about sonic youth? its her past.
i really like Kim, but thats how it comes across with all those interviews, and book reviews..

it comes across that way because that is precisely what she is doing. I mean, if it makes her feel better then more power to her I guess. I mean, the fans need to know that she was scared because Thurston threw a stapler at the wall back in '84. Only terrible abusive people throw staplers at walls when they are frustrated from stapling zines.

[Bal]

i've never read Thurston saying anything bad about Kim or Sonic Youth. Even tho, Kim must have her dark side too...
and that makes it even sadder.

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by Bal

i've never read Thurston saying anything bad about Kim or Sonic Youth. Even tho, Kim must have her dark side too...
and that makes it even sadder.

Everyone does, unfortunately. I like that he's still hopeful about Sonic Youth's future. I mean, it is the biggest thing any of them will do in their lives. On a positive note, 30 years from now people might still be talking about the band and none of this other stuff will matter.

I agree that it is sad in a way. I don't think any fan, despite what side of the fence they stand on (taken they stand on either) foresaw this being the sort of ending to the story that is SY.

[rocky]

Originally Posted by Bal

Kim is badmouthing Thurston every way she can, and telling everyone sonic youth is over. i can understand her feelings were hurt, but its been many years now. why can't she move on with dignity?
and why is she so hostile when anyone asks her about sonic youth? its her past.
i really like Kim, but thats how it comes across with all those interviews, and book reviews..

Maybe that is it, but, after a bit of time i realized, this is a book coming from someone who is still one of the most forward-thinking, creative and unpredictable artists. Kim's writing styles, musical and aesthetic contributions are layers and layers of both concrete surface and abstract and merging undercurrents.

I think... in the excerpts i see signs of this, she has the context and memory to write the truth as it was, allowing those layers to exist, and then allowing it to expand out like ink into water, it is clear that it's also a very unique opportunity for her to share her creative vision with many people in the form of a book, authorship is artistry and how people react to books, the places they allow them in their lives, respecting them very deeply, reading carefully and in the process generating so many responses in themselves, it is a medium that is very compatible with her understanding of creativity and the many idiosyncracies and synchronicities of human existence!
People may at first receive Kim's book as though it is something with less creative depth than her music and visual art, it is hard to orient oneself to those layers still being present, at first!

[Pookie]

Today's Guardian.
http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...s-book-extract

[diskaholic-anonymous]

Originally Posted by Pookie

Today's Guardian.
http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...s-book-extract

nice article

[diskaholic-anonymous]

and just cause of his article i pre-order mine...

[Bal]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

I like that he's still hopeful about Sonic Youth's future. I mean, it is the biggest thing any of them will do in their lives. On a positive note, 30 years from now people might still be talking about the band and none of this other stuff will matter.

yeah exactly! and on the opposite site, Kim says that sonic youth is over for ever. which is a decision, and i respect that, but its funny, she says that, because his husband had left her. i mean c'mon, she's acting like she was 23. very childish.
we all been to this kinda situation, but at the end most of us can handle it, and make peace with the past.

[diskaholic-anonymous]

Originally Posted by Bal

yeah exactly! and on the opposite site, Kim says that sonic youth is over for ever. which is a decision, and i respect that, but its funny, she says that, because his husband had left her. i mean c'mon, she's acting like she was 23. very childish.
we all been to this kinda situation, but at the end most of us can handle it, and make peace with the past.

well pixies doesn't over cause of kim deal...or other bands doesnt over cause other original members. they move out...sonic youth i'ts thurston dream, but that's involved kim relationship, lee ranaldo and steve shelley...how you can move sonic youth without those musicians ?

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by diskaholic-anonymous

well pixies doesn't over cause of kim deal...or other bands doesnt over cause other original members. they move out...sonic youth i'ts thurston dream, but that's involved kim relationship, lee ranaldo and steve shelley...how you can move sonic youth without those musicians ?

The only one who seemingly is totally not on board with a reunion is Kim. I get it. I think its silly, personally, but I do get it. She's at the tail- end of middle age and spent basically half her life with this guy who ditches her for a younger woman. It's gotta suck and I can understand her not wanting to do SY anymore, even if, again I think that and making something that should be private public is in bad taste. At this point its probably about money anyway (the book). Bleh

[Genteel Death]

She's being very reasonable about it. If that happened to me I'd have both killed.

[jennthebenn]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

She's being very reasonable about it. If that happened to me I'd have both killed.

Or at the very least, grievously wounded.

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by jennthebenn

Or at the very least, grievously wounded.

Seriously, I'd try and get a driving license in the process.