New Kim Gordon album drops in March
 

https://youtu.be/IZ3i80B0qKg?si=O2sV6G56ubWQsibx

Lead single and video for “Bye Bye” staring Coco above

Legendary musician and multi-disciplinary artist Kim Gordon returns with her second solo album, The Collective, which will be released March 8th on Matador. Recorded in her native Los Angeles, The Collective follows Gordon’s 2019 full-length debut No Home Record and continues her col- laboration with producer Justin Raisen
(Lil Yachty, John Cale, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Charli XCX, Yves Tumor), with additional production from Anthony Paul Lopez. The album advances their joint world building, with Raisin’s damaged, blown out dub and trap constructions playing the foil to Gordon’s intuitive word collages and hooky mantras, which conjure communication, commercial sublimation and sensory overload.

Tour dates

March 21
Burlington, VT
Higher Ground

March 22
Washington, DC
Black Cat

March 23
Queens, NY
Knockdown Center

March 27
Los Angeles, CA
Regent Theater

March 29
Ventura, CA
Ventura Music Hall

March 30
San Francisco, CA
The Fillmore

the timing on this is tough, I already got tickets for Unwound at the 930 Club the day after, might be tough to do both back to back at this time, 20 years ago this is cannot miss, but sucks being so far away

Damn that was awesome! I'm glad Kim has leaned into heavy beats + guitar noise as a foundation for her voice, it really suits her. Looking forward to hearing the full album!

Sounds pretty dated, not just the beats. The video also looks like something Dior or a big fashion house would use to promote a new perfume or shoe. The muted colours etc. Which is ok, but done a million times before. Oh well, good luck, Kim Gordon. I suppose living off the aura of cool that follows you pays the bills. It's more 'worship your idols' than kill them, at this stage.

Kim is seventy years old, the fact that she's still making music is cool enough on its own but the fact that it's not just shallow repetition of what she's been doing for decades is even better. Go well.

Kim seems really comfortable with the style she's going for here. And I dig it. Not everything has to push the envelope. I can enjoy good music for its own sake. And that sort of production fits her vocal style like a glove. Looking forward to the album.

"Coke Bottle Green" LP flew off the shelf real damn quick (less than a day). BYE BYE indeed!

If we start considering everyone's personal circumstances when creating any form of art, we'd never develop any accurate critical sense or appreciation of what we like about art in the first place. In your post you're telling me that Kim Gordon is 70, she's still making music and she's trying something new with her music. These are all thing I am aware of to start with. And they are all good things, everyone should make stuff whenever they want at whatever age in the situation they find themselves in. In this particular case we are talking about an established artist who's been creating music for a long time, very often brilliant music. In this particular case, personally, her music to me sounds rather trite and boring. Which is also odd, because out of all members of Sonic Youth since they split, I think Kim Gordon is the one whose records with Body/Head have been often better than Sonic Youth themselves in their decline since Sonic Nurse.

you're right of course,

eno is 75 and cranking out work

philip glass, 86 and still touring

nadia boulanger died age 92 working into her final days half blind already

but it's more direct to tell her this way:

child please

xD

(seriously though claire. musicians can make music at any age. unless like sonny rollins they can no longer physically blow a horn, no easy feat, but he's still working in his archive. but maybe it was just the phrasing that gave a different meaning from what you intended? what did you mean by 70?)

but your criticism a bit harsh lol cmon... you don't have to like it of course, but go easy with the extrapolations maybe? i mean why/what for/ get into "living off" etc? that portion i think is unjustified. but i guess that maybe you expect more of her? you mean this is just commercial or exploitative?

i also like her output best in general from all the post-nurse stuff (i liked nurse a lot but not what came after). my fave record of hers so far is the loren mazzacane colaboration, but i like parts of no home record also, body/head, etc.

for the heavy beats i was satisfied with sketch artist and keep hearing it in my head when i hear bye bye

the washed out color of the video is an l.a. thing, i think. the california sun does that often in the daytime. but i wouldn't judge a song by its video. this peaches tune with kim has a great video though hahahaha https://youtu.be/UifL2B8ygfc featuring cassandro

i agree also with antagon that not everything has to push the envelope (not everything has to be avant garde, especially when we move in circles nowadays, going nowhere)

my least favorite part of bye bye is the lyrics maybe. it sounds like a packing list (for travel or something), "shampoo" whatever, does not work for me for the most part... but hilariously it ends with vibrator and teaser, so extra bonus for those items hahaha

lists feature heavily in the greek epics, in the hebrew bible and in whitman. not always my favorite but sometimes they work

as a packing list, it reminds me of george carlin's classic "stuff" routine. see: https://youtu.be/MvgN5gCuLac, first 2.5m is just the setup, the second part refers to travel, and by the end tell me if kim's and carlin's lists don't rhyme hahahaha. i hear them as just one thing now...

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anyway looking forward to hearing the rest of the album eventually

Its, like, they were trying to be one of those over-the-top magazine or newspaper critics. :D


I personally do not like the rappish beat. Although it is all over social media: "Today's Rap Song We are Crushing Over" or some such. I liked noisy bits and song, musically, otherwise.


I also found the list odd.

well, it's a common habit to ascribe motivations to the observed results of someone's actions, a cause to the effect, e.g, "this cake is delicious, must be the cook loves us"

but while results are observable by all, motivations can't really be observed...

maybe the cook just got lucky today, or the cook has a good work ethic regardless of feeling, or the cook bought the cake in a store to save the trouble, or the cook performs better when not giving a fuck...

why people do things is very hard to establish. even with ourselves. sometimes we think we know why we do things, but we really don't hahahaha. it's like that quote by rimbaud about the brass waking up a trumpet and "it's not his fault" hahaha, because "i is another." therefore, if we can't really know ourselves, how much more of an alien, how much more unknowable is "another" with a different self? :eek:

Sounds kind of like the white(y) album but in 2024. And like the white(y) album, it could be worse, but it could also be better.

Kim's still out here trying to subvert Tik Tok's favourite commercial genre with skronk. Meanwhile Coco dancing on your paycheck. They both need beer in belly

anyone knows if the japanese edition will have bonus tracks?

I don't think so. Here's a link for info & purchase.
https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Kim-Go...s%2C241&sr=8-1

that bye, bye track is something else. wow.

NEW VIDEO // "I'm a Man"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioKP3ORu0QY

i had no idea kim had embraced jordan peterson lol

i love that kim is still making music, she's a queen. murdered out is one of my fav songs in the entire sy/sy solo catalogue. i hope she continues to do whatever she wants

Agree with this one hundred per cent, also with Genteel's comment about it being ironic that Body/Head is some of the best post SY music whilst this is the worst.

It's just these stock trap style beats that I really struggle with, and even the guitar noise sounds a bit stock, lacking that wild unhinged quality Sonic Youth had.

There's better ways to combine noise with beats. See Merzbuddha, Demdyke Stare, Autechre, Wolf Eyes, Macronympha live at No Fun Fest for a few examples.

Also, the list thing at the end of the song has already been done in the Bedroom and Side2Side. It didn't really work then and it doesn't really work now.

Kim's Tour continues....
Jun 07: Minneapolis Fine Line, MN
Jun 08: Chicago Beyond the Gate @ Bohemian National Cemetery, IL
Jun 09: Detroit El Club, MI
Jun 10: Toronto Axis Club, CAN
Jun 12: Hudson Basilica Hudson, NY
Jun 14: Philadelphia Union Transfer, PA
Jun 15: Pittsburgh Mr. Smalls Theatre, PA
Jun 17: Louisville Headliners Music Hall, KY
Jun 18: Asheville The Grey Eagle, NC
Jun 19: Atlanta Terminal West, GA
Jun 21: Carrboro Cat’s Cradle, NC
Jun 22: Vienna Out and About Festival, VA
Jun 25: London Koko, UK
Jun 26: Birmingham O2 Institute2, UK
Jun 28: Graz Elevate Festival, AZ

Jul 01: Munich Muffatwerk, GER
Jul 02: Prague Meet Factory, CZE
Jul 03: Open’er Festival, POL
Jul 05: Roskilde Festival, DEN
Jul 28: Fuji Rock Festival, JAP

"Psychedelic Orgasm" (Official Music Video) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdn2A3MVnfE

really enjoyed this one...

I never thought I would live to see the day of a former SY member using auto-tune, but here we are. Thankfully beer can help erase this from memory.

The end of "It's Dark Inside" reminds me of the end of "I Dreamed I Dream."

Overall, a fun listen! I'll likely come back to it. Go Kim.

Believers sounds like nine inch nails. The LP is a critique of social media, where random blasts of melodically dead dated noise appear then disappear at the same frequency of tik tok videos. In that sense it is successful satire but having never used tik tok myself I don't care about the subject enough to listen to a whole album (especially when you consider pubs actually exist and require validation).

Glowing review on AllMusic:

https://www.allmusic.com/album/the-c...e-mw0004197870

I think it's safe to say most people on this thread will not agree with it... ;)

I have only listened to half the album yet, but I'm really enjoying what I heard so far.

From Paste:

Welcome to Kim Gordon’s Collective

The interdisciplinary artist and Sonic Youth co-founder talks about her new solo album, embracing hip-hop production, writers like Jennifer Egan and Rachel Kushner and the parallels between her visual art and music.

listened to it on the road a few days ago and then got into a record store and they were playing it inside. listening again on the turntable right now. i love it. think we may make the trip to atlanta for the concert!

There's your review, right there.

I'm baffled by the praise it is getting to be honest, I guess people are sick of social media and that in and of itself is somehow enough to satisfy. It can't be the beats people are enjoying because they sound like Nine Inch Nails, and not even the Downward Spiral NIN, we're talking 80's NIN when they were making that dated electro shit. I implore anyone to listen to the ear-grating intro car alarm sounding MeLoDy on bye bye and the Believers and try to deny it. Everyone here suddenly loving shitty 80's NIN?! and/or is it simply cool Kim fanboy-ism. Lastly, every time I hear auto-tune I can't help but cringe. It has to be said, auto-tune is the single worst thing to happen to music in the past 25 years* and here comes Kim, legendary queen of apathetic skronk somehow now channeling fucking CHER?! The producer of the record predominantly works with pop-trap artists which tells you everything you need to know really.

*insert favourite shit band joke here.

I really liked it, and I'm surprised music critics are giving it high reviews, all except the guardian I think? I really enjoy the combo of the trap beats and noisy guitar, and I think the wide use of trap beats is reflective on the album's theme. Trap music is all over social media or at least was at one point, so it makes sense why she used it. Plus, she has always liked hip - hop and rap music I think, so I'm glad she got to make her own!

I know it isn't for everyone tho, and thats ok!

The guardian review is fucking wank man. 2 out of 5. Only 2 measly paragraphs stating that the noise on the record is the problem because it drowns out Kim's vocals?! Tone fucking deaf review. The best part is the noise, fucks sake.
Yes she's always loved hip-hop and cited it as therapeutic particularly when regarding T's transgressions so all power to her, but what Kim is doing now is not hip-hop. It's trap-Charli-xcx-pop and more importantly it sounds like 80's NIN but you haven't got the balls to address that ..

I'm not super familiar with NIN so i cant say much on that. Idk I guess I've always just associated Trap with hip - hop too, idk anymore genre titles are confusing

That's OK - regardless of Kim's album's quality the guy was being a dick to you.

If people are somehow unfamiliar with a band that's been releasing music for 35 years then how is that my fault? Do me a favour. Are we to believe all of these reviewers are clueless NIN oscar baiters. Why don't you keep quoting conglomerate reviews instead of saying what you think?

This sounds absolutely nothing like Pretty Hate Machine. There is fairly complex writing on that album and is the least noisy of anything Reznor's produced. It could have used a bit better production or mastering, but there are some gems on it.


He did step up the the noise and went towards a bit darker tone and content with the Broken EP, but is even better than the first album. Furthermost, Kim's latest sounds nothing like NIN.

Denial. Well, isn't this boring. I've changed my mind. I love working out to Trents' firebrand electro bop with the douche bois. And as far as I'm concerned music did not officially begin until Cher released believe in 1998 taking the world by storm. It is completely normal for Kim to be influenced by these colossal titans of rock. Nothing to see here at all, moving on.

I like the idea of someone like Kim Gordon using auto-tune on songs, even AI technology. They're just some of the many things at your disposal to make great music and she's an incredibly talented musician who could turn these tools into something else. Maybe the use she makes of auto-tune on 'Psychedelic Orgasm' isn't that interesting, the song itself reminds me of Death in Vegas, of all musicians. But gate-keeping when it comes to making music, art etc is not going to help anyone.

Also I'm pretty sure Trap music is adjacent to hip - hop.....